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Re: US Steel Strike continues
by Spidubic Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:05 pm
Quote from CD989:
"Local 8782 union president Bill Ferguson says the company is still refusing to negotiate. He also says he would like to see the Federal Conservatives get involved. The last time a lockout happened at U.S. Steel the government reached a deal with the company. However Ferguson notes employees still don't have any idea what was in that deal."
Not sure why he expects the government to get involved again. Would this not set a precedent and allow other unions to ask for government intervention?
As far as the company refusing to negotiate I had a gut feeling when the lockout happened that the last offer made by US Steel was the only offer the union was going to get. US Steel is done negotiating. The deal on the table is the only one they are willing to contemplate. So the lockout IMHO will continue until the union accepts that agreement. US Steel cares little if the Canadian plants reopen tomorrow, next year, or never.
"Local 8782 union president Bill Ferguson says the company is still refusing to negotiate. He also says he would like to see the Federal Conservatives get involved. The last time a lockout happened at U.S. Steel the government reached a deal with the company. However Ferguson notes employees still don't have any idea what was in that deal."
Not sure why he expects the government to get involved again. Would this not set a precedent and allow other unions to ask for government intervention?
As far as the company refusing to negotiate I had a gut feeling when the lockout happened that the last offer made by US Steel was the only offer the union was going to get. US Steel is done negotiating. The deal on the table is the only one they are willing to contemplate. So the lockout IMHO will continue until the union accepts that agreement. US Steel cares little if the Canadian plants reopen tomorrow, next year, or never.
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Re: US Steel Strike continues
by Ruby Tuesday Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:40 pm
100% agree.
The government shouldn't be using taxpayers' dollars to intervene. They "chose" not to accept the offer. That was a choice. Also, I can't see this whole request for EI getting anywhere. If it does then every striking Canadian would have the right to it also going forward in time forever.
The government shouldn't be using taxpayers' dollars to intervene. They "chose" not to accept the offer. That was a choice. Also, I can't see this whole request for EI getting anywhere. If it does then every striking Canadian would have the right to it also going forward in time forever.
Spidubic wrote:Quote from CD989:
"Local 8782 union president Bill Ferguson says the company is still refusing to negotiate. He also says he would like to see the Federal Conservatives get involved. The last time a lockout happened at U.S. Steel the government reached a deal with the company. However Ferguson notes employees still don't have any idea what was in that deal."
Not sure why he expects the government to get involved again. Would this not set a precedent and allow other unions to ask for government intervention?
As far as the company refusing to negotiate I had a gut feeling when the lockout happened that the last offer made by US Steel was the only offer the union was going to get. US Steel is done negotiating. The deal on the table is the only one they are willing to contemplate. So the lockout IMHO will continue until the union accepts that agreement. US Steel cares little if the Canadian plants reopen tomorrow, next year, or never.
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Re: US Steel Strike continues
by growler Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:39 pm
this is another thing the union should have read up on prior to taking an early strike vote,that the company felt was a threat.
so they done what anyone would/could do when threatened,locked the possible trouble makers out !
Red Steel City:
That meant making steel — a lot of it. WISCO is the oldest steel plant in China and has churned out the metal used to make everything from the rifle that fired the first shot in the 1899–1901 Boxer Rebellion to the rolled steel used by up-and-coming Chinese automotive makers such as BYD and Cherry, to the high-performance metal that created the stunning Bird’s Nest Stadium for the Beijing Olympics. At the entrance to the factory campus is a large statue of Mao, who famously proclaimed, “Nothing in the world can defeat us as long as we have two things — one is food; the other is iron and steel.”
In general, the history of WISCO has been one of the rise of China. Pictures in the company museum show several decades worth of smiling Politburo members and leaders from Mao to Deng to Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping, visiting the factory grounds, consulting with Soviet technologists, cutting new steel-trade deals with Brazilian officials and, more recently, announcing major overseas expansions (WISCO now owns and operates mines and steel facilities in places like Canada, Brazil, Liberia, Madagascar, and Australia). The company, which is No. 351 on Fortune’s Global 500, churns out 40 million tons of steel a year, making it the fourth largest producer in the world:
Some 70,000 workers and their families, over 300,000 people in all, live on site in Red Steel City, an ecosystem with its own sports teams, cultural performances, newspaper (with 43 employees!), and group weddings. The massive campus, far superior to most of China’s private export-oriented factory sites, is dotted with parks and trees where workers can lounge or lunch beneath four giant smelters. (Given the proximity of those smelters, the air is surprisingly fresh seeming — a result of a new party push to upgrade environmental conditions at many factories.) Outside one major plant, hedges have been trimmed into exotic topiary animals. Nothing in the U.S. steel industry compares
so they done what anyone would/could do when threatened,locked the possible trouble makers out !
Red Steel City:
That meant making steel — a lot of it. WISCO is the oldest steel plant in China and has churned out the metal used to make everything from the rifle that fired the first shot in the 1899–1901 Boxer Rebellion to the rolled steel used by up-and-coming Chinese automotive makers such as BYD and Cherry, to the high-performance metal that created the stunning Bird’s Nest Stadium for the Beijing Olympics. At the entrance to the factory campus is a large statue of Mao, who famously proclaimed, “Nothing in the world can defeat us as long as we have two things — one is food; the other is iron and steel.”
In general, the history of WISCO has been one of the rise of China. Pictures in the company museum show several decades worth of smiling Politburo members and leaders from Mao to Deng to Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping, visiting the factory grounds, consulting with Soviet technologists, cutting new steel-trade deals with Brazilian officials and, more recently, announcing major overseas expansions (WISCO now owns and operates mines and steel facilities in places like Canada, Brazil, Liberia, Madagascar, and Australia). The company, which is No. 351 on Fortune’s Global 500, churns out 40 million tons of steel a year, making it the fourth largest producer in the world:
Some 70,000 workers and their families, over 300,000 people in all, live on site in Red Steel City, an ecosystem with its own sports teams, cultural performances, newspaper (with 43 employees!), and group weddings. The massive campus, far superior to most of China’s private export-oriented factory sites, is dotted with parks and trees where workers can lounge or lunch beneath four giant smelters. (Given the proximity of those smelters, the air is surprisingly fresh seeming — a result of a new party push to upgrade environmental conditions at many factories.) Outside one major plant, hedges have been trimmed into exotic topiary animals. Nothing in the U.S. steel industry compares
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Re: US Steel Strike continues
by Spidubic Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:38 pm
Apparently the union is not letting the workers vote on the latest/final offer by US Steel. I find that odd. Is it not the workers who should decide whether to accept the offer not the union?
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